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موضوع: Questions الخميس ديسمبر 06, 2007 3:45 pm

Salamo alaikom. Please think of the following:

In what way are irrelevant details significant to our our understanding of Oliver Twist?

What do they signify in the oveall context of the novel?

What is irony and how does Dickens use it in order to serve the form and the content of the novel?

موضوع: رد: Questions السبت ديسمبر 08, 2007 1:30 pm

abdulgawad elnady كتب:: Salamo alaikom. Please think of the following:
In what way are irrelevant details significant to our our understanding of Oliver Twist?
What do they signify in the oveall context of the novel?
What is irony and how does Dickens use it in order to serve the form and the content of the novel?

Peace be upon u

Q1+2 / In short , irrelevant details help the author in conveying

the message , the novel is suposed to carry , to the reader & to depicts a

suitable atmosphere sorrounding the events . The effect of this must be

seen in the reader' s interaction , whether it is highly appropriate or not . i

Q3 / Irony is the technique of saying sth different from what the author means

Dickens uses irony as the most interesting way of satirizing the E

community at that time because he cannot do so directly according to

the patronage problems . We 've discussed this in the last quotation last lecture

I hope this is the required & correct answer

The answers , I know , are too short as they are presented in the site

sorry for coming late dr.i

موضوع: رد: Questions السبت ديسمبر 08, 2007 7:35 pm

SALAMO ALLAH 3ALIKOM,

Smile

HI DOCTOR:

Like a Star @ heaven

I'D LIKE TO THANK U 4 YOUR GOOD TEACHING

I REALLY LIKE IT

HERE U ARE THE ANSWERS:

Q1:THE IRRELEVANT DETAILS ARE CONSIDERD A WEAKNESS IN WRITTING PROSE>>

THEY COULD HELP THE READER IN THE UNDERSTANING OF THE NOVEL BUT FROM THE AUTHORS' POINT OF VIEW

THEY REVEAL HIS OPINION >>

THEY DISTURB THE READERS' ATTENTION SO THEY COULD IGNORE THEM IF THEY WANT

THEY WILL NOT AFFECT THE EVENTS

Q2:
SOME READERS NEED THEM B/C OF THEIR DIFFICULT UNDERSTANDING :tongue:

Q3:
IRONY MEANS 2 SAY SOMETHING WHILE U MEAN THE OTHER
DICKENS USES IRONY IN THE MEANS OF SATIRING

HE IS TRYING 2 CONVEY HIS OPINION ABOUT HIS COMMUNITY BY USING IRONY &SATIRE

HE DIDN'T LIKE SOME OF THEIR BEHAVIOUR

WE KALAS;

SO; WHAT DO U THINK DOCTOR?

THANX AGAIN

موضوع: رد: Questions الأحد ديسمبر 09, 2007 7:45 pm

SALAMO 3ALIKOM;

U SAID TODAY THAT U WANT SOME EXAMPLES FROM THE NOVEL

SO THERE U ARE THE EXAMPLES OF IRRELEVANT DETAILS

ON PAGE 21:AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE THE QUOTATION WHICH IS BEGINNING WITH "BY THE BYE...SIZE"

PAGE 32 & 33 ARE IR.D.

PAGE 46 TO 49 ARE ALSO IR.D.

THAT'S IT

I'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR REPLAY SOON TEACHER

موضوع: رد: Questions السبت ديسمبر 15, 2007 9:50 pm

hello
Excuse me Dr.
can you make the first and the sconed questions more clear

موضوع: رد: Questions الأربعاء ديسمبر 26, 2007 11:16 pm

abc كتب:

abdulgawad elnady كتب:: Salamo alaikom. Please think of the following:In what way are irrelevant details significant to our our understanding of Oliver Twist? What do they signify in the oveall context of the novel?What is irony and how does Dickens use it in order to serve the form and the content of the novel?

Peace be upon u Q1+2 / In short , irrelevant details help the author in conveyingthe message , the novel is suposed to carry , to the reader & to depicts asuitable atmosphere sorrounding the events . The effect of this must beseen in the reader' s interaction , whether it is highly appropriate or not . iQ3 / Irony is the technique of saying sth different from what the author meansDickens uses irony as the most interesting way of satirizing the Ecommunity at that time because he cannot do so directly according tothe patronage problems . We 've discussed this in the last quotation last lecture I hope this is the required & correct answerThe answers , I know , are too short as they are presented in the site sorry for coming late dr.iSalamo alaikomThanks for the simple and direct way u express ursefl. I like that. it shows u understand what i said in the lecture. But as u said they are so short and need more elaboration especially the one about irony.Thank u

موضوع: رد: Questions الأربعاء ديسمبر 26, 2007 11:22 pm

S_ALMARRI_QATAR*) كتب:: SALAMO ALLAH 3ALIKOM,

HI DOCTOR:

I'D LIKE TO THANK U 4 YOUR GOOD TEACHING

I REALLY LIKE IT

HERE U ARE THE ANSWERS:

Q1:THE IRRELEVANT DETAILS ARE CONSIDERD A WEAKNESS IN WRITTING PROSE>>

THEY COULD HELP THE READER IN THE UNDERSTANING OF THE NOVEL BUT FROM THE AUTHORS' POINT OF VIEW

THEY REVEAL HIS OPINION >>

THEY DISTURB THE READERS' ATTENTION SO THEY COULD IGNORE THEM IF THEY WANT

THEY WILL NOT AFFECT THE EVENTS

Q2:
SOME READERS NEED THEM B/C OF THEIR DIFFICULT UNDERSTANDING :tongue:

Q3:
IRONY MEANS 2 SAY SOMETHING WHILE U MEAN THE OTHER
DICKENS USES IRONY IN THE MEANS OF SATIRING

HE IS TRYING 2 CONVEY HIS OPINION ABOUT HIS COMMUNITY BY USING IRONY &SATIREHE DIDN'T LIKE SOME OF THEIR BEHAVIOUR

WE KALAS;

SO; WHAT DO U THINK DOCTOR?

THANX AGAIN

HI. You have done a good job in explaining something about irrelevant details and about irony but u also need some elaboration especially in thelast section where u havent mentioned any examples. i remember to have told u that exammples have to be cited AND EXPLAINED not just mentioned .

موضوع: رد: Questions الأربعاء ديسمبر 26, 2007 11:28 pm

*Angel wings كتب:: hello
Excuse me Dr.
can you make the first and the sconed questions more clear

Irelevant details are the sections in the novel where the writer diverts to other unimp[ortant elements or stories. They should be regarded as a weakness in the novel but at the same time they shed some light on some good aspects of society. i asked u in the second half of the question about their importance to the overall novel, i mean are they important to the course of the novel?

موضوع: رد: Questions الأربعاء ديسمبر 26, 2007 11:31 pm

S_ALMARRI_QATAR*) كتب:: SALAMO 3ALIKOM;U SAID TODAY THAT U WANT SOME EXAMPLES FROM THE NOVEL SO THERE U ARE THE EXAMPLES OF IRRELEVANT DETAILSON PAGE 21:AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE THE QUOTATION WHICH IS BEGINNING WITH "BY THE BYE...SIZE"PAGE 32 & 33 ARE IR.D.PAGE 46 TO 49 ARE ALSO IR.D.THAT'S ITI'D LIKE TO SEE YOUR REPLAY SOON TEACHER I repeat: it is not enought to say there is an example on page such and such w khalas. NO. U have to explain the relevance or importance of this or that quotation. thnx

موضوع: q الجمعة ديسمبر 28, 2007 1:50 am

MY answer q2

are they important to the course of the novel??

i think the irrelevant details are not v.important in the novel
because when the reader reads the novel with excitement, this irrelevant details distract his attention and iterrupt his ideas
and he feels that he forgets the previous event he reached to.

i don.t know if this correct answer or not...this my opinion
it might be different
Dr..........what do u think

will give us in the exam q llke this
i mean the same method you ask q and we answer or u wiil give us only examples??

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